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- Alexa Mintah
- Alexandria, better known as Alex or Alexa, is a strange Christian-fangirl-YA-writer medley tucked away in an undisclosed location in Virginia. She loves creating worlds out of keystrokes, discovering adorable ships (platonic or romantic), and becoming besties with clever characters who wow her with love and brilliance. When only half spellbound by her many worlds of words, she can be found working amongst the stacks in her local library.
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I can get that you didn't like The Giver, but you should remember that this is like, the ORIGINAL YA dystopian novel. Like, the movie has just come out over twenty years of trying to make it that way. And so things like THG and Divergent are more popular not only because they might be better quality, but the genre had more time to be refined since Lois Lowry's initial opening there. So... like, just keep that in mind. For me, it isn't just a book I like, but a trailblazer, if you will, so I give it some extra points.
ReplyDeleteI agree that the "literary community" doesn't like Twilight much (I did this tag like, yesterday, and several people said so, haha) but I'm one of those people who is sincerely liking it. I don't agree about Jacob—mostly because he's childish and would always balance her discipline with his "protection" and attitude, which would kind of trap Bella... *cough* Sorry. You probably do not want to hear me weigh in on all my mindless comments on your opinions. Heh.
I'm not really motivated to read The Fault in Our Stars, either, and two boy love triangles is, yes, getting old. I did like the Ender's Game book and the movie, but it's been so long since I've read the book that I don't feel super confident in having a definitive opinion in that regard. Still, it was a great movie, and Harrison Ford and the Mandarin were in it, so bonus points there.
Even if I disagree with you on some notes, I'm glad you shared your unpopular opinions. Thanks for sharing!
It is? Okay, that I didn't know. With that in mind and without my former dystopian expectations, I might've actually enjoyed it. I don't really know. Maybe I'll try it again sometime without any expectations. :)
DeleteHehe, that is what I asked for actually. ;) I admit Jacob could be childish, but at least he wasn't super controlling. I mean, Edward took the engine out of Bella's car to try to keep her under his thumb. That would've been an automatic breakup for me, lol.
I don't think the Ender's Game book was /bad/, necessarily, just not for me. I didn't like the amount of wrong and brutality put in. It just didn't sit well with me, not the sort of thing I wanted to spend my free time reading. And yes, the movie was amazing!!!! :D
No problem, I'm glad you enjoyed it! And, well, that is kinda the point of the tag, that these opinions aren't what most people would agree with. :)
Yeah. And I mean, I don't blame you. I felt slightly disappointed that the book wasn't as good as when I read it in sixth grade—but it would kind of be like telling the Wright brothers that you thought their plane sucked because it wasn't as good as the Boeing you flew on last year, lol.
DeleteAdmittedly, Edward invaded Bella's friendship with Jacob, and Jacob had more definitive plans to get into Bella's pants, so Jacob had some things going for him. Still, Edward behaved in a much more mature way than Jacob, and ultimately his goal was to protect her body and soul from his world—Jacob was a little more selfish in that his main motives were getting Bella away from the vampire world and perhaps taking a little undo risk with her in his own world. :P
Ah. Yeah, that's kind of my thing, so there we go.
:)
Haha, yeah, true. Like I said, it didn't know it was a trailblazer. That doesn't necessarily change my opinion, but it is a fair thing to keep in mind. :)
DeleteLOL, I think Jacob wanted a little more than that out of the relationship. :)
And I'd disagree that Edward was more mature. He didn't exhibit that much maturity; I mean he wasn't strictly immature, but he wasn't super great either. And besides that, Jacob does leave everything he knows, and literally risk all he has just to protect Bella when she's already married and pregnant with someone else's kid. That takes a lot of... something, I don't know, be it love, maturity, whatever. Because he knew he had no chance with her, yet he risked everything for her anyway. And even if Edward is more mature, he's like 109, Jacob's 16. So regardless of all else, comparing maturity levels isn't really fair.
Plus, I think they're motives were the same; they both wanted to protect her from the other supernatural creatures they saw as dangerous. Jacob didn't want her away from Edward just for the sole sake of wanting her away from Edward; he wanted to protect her too.
And the werewolves were certainly no more dangerous than the vampires. Jasper does leap for Bella in New Moon, after all. :p
*nods* And that's fair of you to say.
DeleteI won't say that he acted like the most mature human being in the universe, but Edward demonstrates his maturity not necessarily with Bella, but in other ways. He hears everyone's thoughts and doesn't use them to exploit everyone, he speaks as a spokesperson for his entire family, and has spent his 100 years educating himself, learning languages, reading, and so on when he could be doing basically anything. So he does have some stuff going for him. I understand what you mean about Jacob, but I do have to disagree on one note: you say that he knew he had no chance with her, but I have to believe that the way he was hanging on to that idea of her, he really did hope that she would come to her senses, abort her child, and go back with him. Like, I feel like until he imprinted on Nessie, he still was hoping that Bella would change her mind. But, yeah, comparing maturity levels might not be fair, even if they both supernaturally achieved adulthood.
They did have similar motives, in that regard. It's just odd, because while werewolves do have a track record of hurting people on accident, as with Emily, for example, Carlisle hasn't messed up in 300 years of existing. And so while Jasper might have threatened Bella, I feel like there was a lot of the werewolves seeing what they wanted to see, Jacob included.
*coughs* This... is a fascinating discussion, but then I also feel bad for cluttering up your blog comments. If you want, you can email me at heroinehiding@gmail.com to continue, or we can just agree to disagree. But I feel like this isn't the place anymore... y'know?
Hmm, those are all good points. I hadn't thought about them, but yeah, I guess he does have some level of maturity.
DeleteI still disagree on that point because there's one passage in the book where (if I remember correctly) Jacob says something along the lines of, "I don't know why I'm doing this because she's already chosen him." I'm paraphrasing of course, but I think that's the gist of it. He knew that there was no way this could end well for him; he had no possibility for a happy ending. But he fought for her anyway.
It's been a while since I read the books, bu if I remember correctly, that was a one-time thing, not really a track record. And I definitely agree there, I think both the Cullens and the werewolves saw of each other what they wanted to see, but I don't think that either was more dangerous than the other. They each had the potential to completely flip and take Bella's head off, lol.
Hehe, I love comments! But if you want to just agree to disagree, sure, if you want to continue this somewhere else we can totally do the email. Or just facebook message, that might be easier. Either way: end it, email, comments, facebook. All works for me. :)
But seriously this has been an amazing discussion! Thanks for sharing your opinions! :D
I am laughing. This is hilarious. You are hilarious. X'D
ReplyDeleteI've never *read* The Giver, but the movie has been recommended to me multiple times. Did you think it was better than the book, if you have watched it? XD It sounds so good! AND YOUR POPULAR TROPES - YES. All I can say. Yes. Yes. And yes.
ME TOOOO. I'm never reading The Fault in Our Stars - never. I'm glad for everyone who love it, but it is seriously not my kind of book. Why subject myself to such pain when it is not necessary?! ;D
I agree with mostly all of these, except for the ones that I don't know much about so I can't really give (or agree with) an opinion (like, with Twilight, never watched or read it, but I know how it ends, and I thought Jacob should have ended up with Bella, but I can't voice this opinion as I don't *really* know the story ... eheh XP).
This was such an awesome post, ahaha! My fave from you so far. :D Thank you for tagging me! I will have to think about my answers, mwaha. ;)
Thanks! Glad you liked it! :D
DeleteI haven't actually watched the movie yet, but maybe I will sometime. Hehe, glad you agree! :D
EXACTLY. There's just no point in doing that to myself.
Gotcha. Well, I wouldn't necessarily say don't read it/watch it, but I'm not gonna recommend Twilight either. Basically seems like you know everything you need to, though ;)
THANK YOU SO MUCH! Wow, guess I should talk about my weird opinions more often, lol. And you're welcome! Can't wait to see your post!
Gosh, Alexa. I can't disagree with you on ANYTHING here. I WANT TO HAVE A POLITE ARGUMENT! *pouts*
ReplyDeleteBut seriously. I haven't read Twilight or Partials, I didn't like Ender's Game or Fault in our Stars, I read almost every genre too, I'm tired of those tropes as well, kissing covers and shirtless people are a no-no...... I guess I could almost disagree with you over The Giver? I thought it was good, but not great. But--like Heather said--it was a trailblazer, and that makes me appreciate it more.
Haha, sorry! I'll have to come up with some even more out there opinions so you can dispute with me ;)
DeleteWell, like I said in reply to Heather, I actually had no idea that it was a trailblazer. So with that in mind and not expecting anything crazily epic to happen, I might be able to enjoy it. :)
Ahhhh!! I'm kind of just flailing with glee because I added that #10 question to this original tag because I couldn't stand to have it only have #9 AND NOW IT'S DOING THE ROUNDS SO, UM, LEMME JUST BE PLEASED FOR A SECOND. XD hehe *ahem*
ReplyDeleteAhhh, I liked Ender's Game movie A LOT. I'm not sure if I liked it more than the book?! I mean they were both 5-stars for me. xD And I have only read Twilight, not the rest of the series and I don't really understand the hate. I didn't love it and I thought the writing was a bland, buuuut...I didn't actually think the characters were that bad. *shrugs*
Kira was kind of annoying. I loved Partials but found the next two books SO BORING.
I'm the same with Harry Potter too. ;-) I'm reading it and I like it but I don't DIE WITH FLAILS at it all the time like 99% of the world. I feel like an oddball! :O
Hehe, YES FEEL FREE TO FEEL PLEASED! Lol. It was a good question! :)
DeleteYeah, the plot of Partials was really intriguing! I just couldn't stand Kira. :p
Basically, yes, LOL. Everyone's like "BEST SERIES EVER!" And I'm just like, "It's okay, I guess..."
Actually, I totally agree with you about Twilight, lol! Like I said in the post, I have a lot of problems with it (for instance, that Bella is pathetic and Edward a controlling creeper), but I liked that book, Breaking Dawn, in particular the part in Jacob's pov. And lol, basically, yes. That's one of my biggest problems with it: by herself, Bella is nothing. It takes all the characters around her to make the story halfway interesting.
ReplyDeleteHehe, well, thanks for forgiving me! Like I said in the above comments, I actually didn't know that The Giver was like the first ever dystopian. So I might try it again sometime with that in mind. :)
Thanks for commenting!